though i would throw up a post, with a couple dodles. the bum is Foul 'Oren from the prachett books(head of the beggers guikd). did it sloppy drunk and will only work on it drunk, (bit of method 3d as it were) sort of my tribute to prechett. and a quick mech head thing froma buddies concept, should be cool when i make the insides, and then normal it all. ill get some skuntch drawings up soon, been thinking about getting a sketch book thread started on ca to motivate and get some crits. e very ones been killing it lately. good work everyone.